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This comment pertains to both Existentialist Chess and to Bario. Bario was supposedly an attempt to be a very complicated chess game. But in my opinion it does not come close to the complexity of Existentialist Chess. So, while a complex version of Bario is being worked on (involving 'nuetral quantoms') I was thinking, what about an Exitentialist Bario (or Quantom) Chess? That game, I think, would perhaps be the most complicated game ever. If David Short is interested I suggest he read over the recent Bario comments to get an idea of the 'Bario/Quantom' Factor. Perhaps he and Mr. Smith could share notes and creat a truly wild game? Just an idea. Best regards to all.