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Radioactive Queen Chess. White has a little diff in setup, but great diff in the game. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 08:01 AM UTC:

It's ready, please watch it


H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 02:29 PM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from 08:01 AM:

This is extremely unbalanced. An Amazon is only worth as much as a Queen plus a Knight, and the ability to castle or e.p. capture is of no significant value. So it is like black is three minors ahead, amongst which the Bishop pair.


Ben Reiniger wrote on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 04:22 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 02:29 PM:

For reference, Betza has a (unofficial/untested?) Chess-with-different-armies team with an amazon; he just limits the rooks to R4 and keeps the other pieces:

https://www.chessvariants.org/d.betza/chessvar/cvda/amazon.html


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Tue, Mar 21, 2023 08:35 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Mon Mar 20 02:29 PM:Good ★★★★

OK I've edited that


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Wed, Mar 22, 2023 07:45 AM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from Tue Mar 21 08:35 AM:

Ready


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Apr 3, 2023 06:58 PM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from Wed Mar 22 07:45 AM:

My submission is ready)


H. G. Muller wrote on Tue, Apr 4, 2023 09:23 AM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from Mon Apr 3 06:58 PM:

I see you equiped the Radioactive Queen with hit-and-run captures now. But would that not make it too strong? Can anyone beat the Diagram below with black?

satellite=radio ranks=8 files=8 maxPromote=1 promoZone=1 promoChoice=QNBR royal=7 stalemate=win graphicsDir=/graphics.dir/horizons/ squareSize=50 symmetry=none firstRank=1 lightShade=#A097AF darkShade=#7D4A95 lightShade=#EDEDED darkShade=#C1C193 rimColor=#FFFFFE coordColor=#000000 whitePrefix=w blackPrefix=b graphicsType=png useMarkers=1 newClick=0 borders=0 pawn::::a2-h2,,a7-h7 knight:N:::,,b8,g8 bishop::::,,c8,f8 rook::::a1,h1,,a8,h8 queen::::,,d8 superpiece:A:QNcamKcabmK:amazon:d1 king::KisO2::e1,,e8

Radioactive Queen Chess


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sat, Apr 8, 2023 02:21 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Tue Apr 4 09:23 AM:

I will remake this variant. Slightly


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, Apr 9, 2023 07:53 AM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from Sat Apr 8 02:21 PM:

Ready for publishing. Hit-and-run captures activate only after adjacent taking move. So it’s like Lioness!


H. G. Muller wrote on Sun, Apr 9, 2023 10:48 AM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from 07:53 AM:

Ready for publishing. Hit-and-run captures activate only after adjacent taking move. So it’s like Lioness!

That does seem more reasonable. Although I still have my doubts that this ability would be enough to compensate for 3 minors.

Designing a viable asymmetric variant is far harder than designing a symmetric one. Because you have to worry about balance, which in the latter case is automatic, provided you take care of some minor points like a tactically quiet start position (e.g. no easily attackable unprotected pieces). To know whether an asymmetric game is balanced you really have to do extensive play testing, either by hand or through computer games. While you obviously never do any play testing at all.

I changed the move of the Cyberpiece in the Diagram I posted earlier to what you describe now. Can you beat the Diagram's AI with white now? Can you beat it with black?


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Apr 10, 2023 08:21 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Sun Apr 9 10:48 AM:

I’ve beaten InteractiveDiagram with black and with white (I can send you move checklists). Don’t forget that white starts a game with SkyBrilliant’s drop, but black is the first player to move.

Something like Janggi


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Apr 10, 2023 08:32 AM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from 08:21 AM:

AI level X - Rechefiltr_is_Fire

White places his Karmium on d1 and looks pleasant), so black moves first.

  1. Nf6 (do this move by black and insert only moves after) O-O 2. Nc6 c4 3. d6 d4 4. Bd7 Ab3 5. e6 Axb7 6. Be7 Axc6xb7 7. O-O Axa8xb7 8. d5 Axc7xb7 9. dxc4 Axa7 10. Be8 h4 11. Bd6 Aa6 12. e5 Axc4 13. exd4 Rad1 14. Qb8 Rxd4 15. Bh2 Kh1 16. Nh5 g4 17. Ng3 fxg3 18. Qxg3 h5 19. Qh3 Rf3 20. Bg3 Kg1 21. Qh2 Kf1 22. Qh1

Rechefiltr_is_Fire - AI level X

White places his Karmium on f1 to avoid white’s first sufficient move, black moves normally first.

  1. Af1 (also move and insert only moves after this) d5 2. Ae3 e6 3. Ae5 Nc6 4. Axd5-e4 Nf6 5. Ae3 Bd6 6. O-O-O O-O 7. Ac4 Ne5 8. Ad4 Nc6 9. Ae3 Nb4 10. Kb1 Nfd5 11. Ac4 Nf4 12. Axb4xc4 Qg5 13. h4 Qxg2 14. e3 Qc6 15. Ad4 Qb6 16. Af3 Nd5 17. Rhg1 a5 18. Ag5 Nc3 19. dxc3 Qxb2 20. Kxb2 Ba3 21. Kxa3 Ra7 22. Axg7

Diceroller is Fire wrote on Tue, May 30, 2023 10:43 AM UTC:

Radioactive Queen Chess is long time ago considered as ready. Sorry, it’ll be nice to get your answer when you will be free.


Ben Reiniger wrote on Fri, Jun 23, 2023 03:40 AM UTC:

I'd suggest to stick to one name for white's superpiece. I don't think "& be placed" is helpful in the description of that piece, nor including rook and bishop when it already moves as queen. Draw occurs if checkmate is impossible, but it's always possible for white if it still has its superpiece (?), and without it the game will already end in 5 turns?...


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Fri, Jun 23, 2023 03:59 PM UTC in reply to Ben Reiniger from 03:40 AM:

Thx very much, I've edited


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sat, Jun 24, 2023 06:37 PM UTC:

So, can you change its short external description, like:

"White hasn't Queen and minors but places hybrid of all chessmen with hit-to-run adjacent taking"

edit: instead of "White has little diff in setup but..."


Ben Reiniger wrote on Sat, Jun 24, 2023 10:41 PM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from 06:37 PM:

Before I do, can I suggest different phrasing?

White has no knights or bishops, but their queen is amazon plus a hit-and-run capture of adjacent pieces.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, Jun 25, 2023 11:59 AM UTC in reply to Ben Reiniger from Sat Jun 24 10:41 PM:

Sorry, I definitely refuse to call RQ as an amazon.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, Jun 25, 2023 04:25 PM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from 11:59 AM:

I’ve edited that article, now Karmium General can’t castle to Rooks, and winning rules are changed also.


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