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Joyce's ''take the Knight move and stick it on every other piece in the game'' is interesting. Irrespective of NN, that's what Carrera does in Centaur (BN) and Champion (RN). And what Bird does with the same two expropriated. And what Capablanca with the same two. And Seirawan does with a little gating effect from off-board, the same guys. I think that is being Joe's point here. The mainstream has no imagination (they play blindfold or they play fast, whee), and the fringes lack commonsense discrimination and discretion.