Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To H. G. Muller wrote on Tue, May 24, 2011 06:39 AM EDT:Apart from testing Capablanca pieces, I did extensive testing on short-range pieces, in an attempt to explain their value in terms of their individual moves. (Alas, I could only do this with Fairy-Max, a minimalist engine much weaker than Joker80 is in Capablanca Chess). In particular, I tested handicapped versions of the 'Lion' (FADWN), that were lacking one or two moves (in left-right symmetric patterns). These tests confirmed the importance of forwardness: the piece would lose about twice as much value when you took away some forward moves (like fA) as when you took away sideway or backward moves (like bA). When I made the piece divergent, taking away some captures made the total value suffer about twice as much as when you took away some non-captures. The importance of forward moves seems a good explanation for the observation that the R-B difference seems to go down on wider boards. In cylinder Chess, eqivalent to an infinitely wide board, a Bishop gains about a full Pawn compared to one that is not allowed to 'wrap around'. The Rook gains almost nothing (< 25 cP). I never did any testing of piece values in Knightmate, despite the fact that I have an engine for it which is much stronger than Fairy-Max (namely JokerKM). Although most pieces are orthodox there, one could expect significant value differences with the value of the same piece in FIDE, because of the different royal piece. (E.g. Rooks no longer have mating potential; a Queen can force mate wthout royal help.) Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID ARCHBISHOP Value does not match any item.