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Nao. Moves like nightrider, but must jump when taking.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

📝Kelvin Voskuijl wrote on Fri, Feb 7, 2020 05:46 PM EST:

I'll make this page larger tomorrow. Could someone change the index description to 'Moves like nightrider, but must jump when taking'?

Greg Strong wrote on Fri, Feb 7, 2020 06:52 PM EST:

Done.

📝Kelvin Voskuijl wrote on Fri, Feb 7, 2020 07:30 PM EST:

Thanks, source for this piece BTW is All The King's men and Julia's Fairies and on this page http://www.jurajlorinc.com/chess/mycompo.htm

Added the diagram, will fix error with dot tomorrow

📝Kelvin Voskuijl wrote on Fri, Mar 13, 2020 07:49 PM EDT:

I've corrected the diagram

I'm going to research the value soon

📝Kelvin Voskuijl wrote on Sat, Jun 20, 2020 12:36 PM EDT:

Still weird that this piece has never been used

📝Kelvin Voskuijl wrote on Thu, Feb 3, 2022 07:00 PM EST:

This piece has also been called a Cao, probably the C coming from cavalry

Edward Webb wrote on Wed, Apr 26, 2023 03:39 PM EDT:

It's interesting that the Nightrider is relatively popular, while the Knight equivalent to a Pao (Cannon) and Vao (diagonal equivalent) is in obscurity.

They are alike in terms of complexity. The latter is more challenging to defend against, even though it's weaker.

(Also, the diagram of its movement is currently hosted on an external site, with a warning on the page.)

Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Tue, Oct 31, 2023 08:50 AM EDT:

I found this page while browsing "Piece articles" under "Explore". Why is there and not in "Piececlopedia" is strange.

Shouldn't this page be moved?

HaruN Y wrote on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 08:21 AM EST in reply to Kelvin Voskuijl from Sat Jun 20 2020 12:36 PM EDT:Excellent ★★★★★

You mean in a game?

Hey Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today!

Edit: NaoQi.

David Paulowich wrote on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 03:54 PM EST in reply to Kelvin Voskuijl from Sat Jun 20 2020 12:36 PM EDT:

Weird facts: the Nao has never been used in a game, but the Nightrider in Jumping Knights Chess performs capturing moves in an opposite manner. Continuing a proposal by Peter Aronson, this game requires every piece to capture "checkers fashion" by moving beyond the target piece. An example follows:

Hopefully the Nao movement diagram will still be here in the future. Suppose we change the Nao to a Nightrider and place this diagram in the center of the Jumping Knights Chess 10x10 board. Then the Black Queen shields the White Queen, while the White Rook can be captured by a two-step Nightrider move to the "zero rank".

📝Kelvin Voskuijl wrote on Wed, Mar 26 05:45 PM EDT in reply to HaruN Y from Mon Nov 18 2024 08:21 AM EST:

Is this game still in progress?

HaruN Y wrote on Thu, Mar 27 12:05 AM EDT in reply to Kelvin Voskuijl from Wed Mar 26 05:45 PM:

Not really, but "As a Veteran contributor with nine or more submissions published so far, you are limited to submitting nine of your games for review and publication at a time. If you would like to post more, cooperate with the editors to get your submissions accepted, or revert something to a work-in-progress and submit something else."

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Nao's value according to the Interactive Diagram guess is about 1,5 Soldier here.

Edit: I accidentally refreshed, which made me comment twice. Why can't I delete my own comment without verified ID?