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Euqorab. Anti-Baroque. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
David Cannon wrote on Tue, Jan 6, 2009 05:55 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
This looks like an Ultima variant to me. I love Ultima and think there is room for a lot more variety in the development of pieces, and I'm glad to see this variant. It would be great if someone with Zillions expertise could find the time to program it.

(zzo38) A. Black wrote on Tue, Jan 6, 2009 09:10 PM UTC:
The name is written BAROQUE backward. Ultima game is also called Baroque. So, yes it is Ultima variant

Charles Gilman wrote on Wed, Jan 7, 2009 08:04 AM UTC:
Reaper is already established as a normally-capturing pieces, Rook+Gryphon in Tripunch Chess. It might be best to substitute some other name.

💡📝John Smith wrote on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 08:03 PM UTC:
Though there are several variant pieces whose names are shared with unlike ones, I have changed the name of the Reaper. Now it is deemed a 'Wrong Reaper', as a variant of 'Long Leaper', which it is the opposite of.

Bn Em wrote on Thu, Jan 22, 2015 07:35 PM UTC:
I am unconvinced by the independent and widow: The independent seems a bit strong, and certainly if one were to play a game with several more kinds of ultima-style piece it would easily dominate the game (although it could be nerfed by capturing only as enemy pieces on the board currently unable to capture it, making it probably a good idea to trade it off in the midgame...), while the widow appears to be nothing more than a weakened immobiliser, limiting movement but adding the option (though in this case only under certain circumstances) to self-destruct. The other pieces seem interesting though; I wonder how they would work with normal ultima (and of course ultima variant) pieces...

Georg Spengler wrote on Thu, Jan 22, 2015 11:54 PM UTC:
Ha ha, a negative parallel universe Ultima! And now give to the white side the original Baroque pieces and to the black side the Euqorab ones. Must be a mind crushing mess.

Jeremy Good wrote on Sat, Jan 24, 2015 05:35 PM UTC:
Ultima with Different Armies. I like it. :-)

Johnny Luken wrote on Fri, Feb 20, 2015 09:20 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
Nice concept and homage to the original.

The "wrong reaper" is clever and not something I had thought of.

One thing maybe missing from the set is to change to the king from anti king chess that can't be captured, but requires constant enemy threat.

As mentioned the widow is essentially an immobiliser and the "independent" is overpowered, though the presence of the anti king would makes it a more acceptable piece.

Also in the spirit of the game would be to have a "mobiliser" type that for example allows double move to adjacent friendlies.

RRookie24 wrote on Wed, Apr 23 10:08 AM UTC:

The Eris seems to be too strong. If I understand the piece correctly, the Eris can attack any non-royal piece in the opponent's backrow.


HaruN Y wrote on Wed, Apr 23 11:46 AM UTC in reply to RRookie24 from 10:08 AM:

I think the Eris is supposed to move as a chess Queen. At the end of its move, any enemy piece that is on the same file as the Eris & same rank as the enemy King, or on the same rank as the Eris & the same file is the enemy King, is captured which means you can only capture a maximum of 2 pieces in one move with Eris. The Eris can never move to an occupied square. Similar to the Coordinator.


RRookie24 wrote on Wed, Apr 23 02:01 PM UTC in reply to HaruN Y from 11:46 AM:

The problem is that the Eris coordinates with the enemy King. All backrow pieces share their rank with the King.


HaruN Y wrote on Wed, Apr 23 10:19 PM UTC in reply to RRookie24 from 02:01 PM:

Bongcloud.


RRookie24 wrote on Thu, Apr 24 04:53 AM UTC in reply to HaruN Y from Wed Apr 23 10:19 PM:

It takes at least two turns to move the King from his starting position. The white Eris can capture a backrow piece on the second turn.


HaruN Y wrote on Fri, Apr 25 03:01 AM UTC in reply to RRookie24 from Thu Apr 24 04:53 AM:

What if after your King advances you do the same to your opponent?


RRookie24 wrote on Fri, Apr 25 04:22 AM UTC in reply to HaruN Y from 03:01 AM:

Black would need to free the black Eris first. White might still have the advantage. I am not a great chess player, but I am still not convinced that the Eris is balanced.


Bn Em wrote on Fri, Apr 25 12:28 PM UTC in reply to RRookie24 from 04:22 AM:

And indeed, since setup is the “Same as FIDE Chess”, the chosen victim after e.g. 2. Ea2 could be the opponent's Eris, making retaliation impossible.

Arguably it'd still be worth playing the opening out a bit further to see if doing that is a blunder, but yes, normally that kind of forcible line is considered a defect


HaruN Y wrote on Sat, Apr 26 08:39 AM UTC:

How about this?

Euqorab 2: Electric Boogaloo

files=8 ranks=8 promoZone=0 promoChoice= graphicsDir=/cgi-bin/fen2.php?s=50&w=&b=&p= squareSize=50 graphicsType= symmetry=rotate firstRank=1 coordColor=#ffffff lightShade=#eeeeee darkShade=#0b4378 rimColor=#000000 borders=0 trackPieces=2 spell=protect Splitter pawn:P:mRyascabafcabR:*_%templar:a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,,a7,b7,c7,d7,e7,f7,g7,h7 Protector:G:mQ:*_%immobilizer:h1,,a8 value=450 Skewer:S:mQcyaf(caf)mQ:*_%longleaper:b1,g1,,b8,g8 shooter=2 Advancer:R:yafomcabQyafdabuQ:ram:d1 shooter=2 borrower:B:xQ:fool--queen:c1,f1,,c8,f8 antiranker:A:safafyafmWfrbl(af)afrblmpafmpafmpafcabmpafmpafmpafFfrbl(af)afrblmpafmpafmpafmdaubmpafmpafmpafFflbr(af)aflbrmpafmpafmpafcabmpafmpafmpafFflbr(af)aflbrmpafmpafmpafmdaubmpafmpafmpafFs(af)avmpafmpafmpafcabmpafmpafmpafWs(af)avmpafmpafmpafmdaubmpafmpafmpafWv(af)asmpafmpafmpafcabmpafmpafmpafWv(af)asmpafmpafmpafmdaubmpafmpafmpafW:queen--sidemovergeneral:a1,,h8 shooter=2 king:K:KisO2:king:e1,,d8

The Protector is an antiform of Immobilizer because it affects adjacent friendly pieces rather than adjacent enemy pieces.

The Skewer is the antiform of Long Leaper because it can only capture more than one enemy piece if there's no empty space between the enemy pieces.

The Borrower is the antiform of the Chameleon because its movement is based on friendly pieces rather than enemy pieces.

The Antiranker is the antiform of Coordinator because it doesn't require your King to be in a specific position to capture & is a major piece.


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