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Five Tigers. A Chinese Chess variant with unequal armies. (9x10, Cells: 90) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Sam wrote on Fri, Jun 28, 2002 03:42 PM UTC:Poor ★I have tryed this game and it is impossible for red to win because black can easily get out all of his pieces really fast. Also you need to tell where this idea came from.
Anonymous wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 06:34 AM UTC:Poor ★This is not counted as a checkmate as the king can free himself by moving his minister away
Anonymous wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 06:48 AM UTC:ah, but that would take TWO moves, so it's still checkmate.
emrave wrote on Mon, Feb 24, 2003 11:50 AM UTC:Poor ★It's possible indeed. I've played against the computer program by Ed Friedlander and won 10 games in a row (all games red human and black computer). Here's one of the games: 1.P3+1 P7+1 R9+1 2.P3+1 P3+1 C8-1 3.P3=2 P2+1 P1+1 4.P2+1 P2=1 N8+9 5.P1=2 P1+1 P1+1 6.P2=3 P3=4 Red wins I don't really like this setup of five tigers game though, I prefer another setup.
Normally the red player is a good player. I played this variation with an old man before and he beats me. Normally the black player would attack but you should start to defend your pieces first and attack after that. And as for red, if they are good, they'll check mate you. Even if they are not as good, they could force a draw and that itself is not easy already. So, black shouldnt just try to exchange pieces one on one. In short, you gotta be good for if youre playing red.
dude.... with 5 pawns only, u can't even accross the river while the black
have another 5 pawns, the red 5 pawns will be killed in the first 10 turns
or less... ...........................................
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i would think that the five tigers should be able to move sideways from the beginning... how are they supposed to get across the river otherwise?... can't blue/black just kind of hover around on the far banks, re-arranging his pieces and picking the tigers off as they come across?... wouldn't it be better to let the tigers move sideways from the start? also, if i understand correctly, the diagram here does indeed show a checkmate, because even if the king's left advisor goes in front of the king, the pawn, with it's 2-point movement would simply 'turn the corner' and 'boom'... king taken... that ability to move 1 sideways and one forward (or vice versa)... seems fairly powerful for trapping the black/blue king in the palace....
're-arranging his pieces and picking the tigers off as they come across'?
Note the tigers can move twice in one turn! Pick the tigers off? Unless black exchange them with rooks and cannons!!!!
Aren't the Tigers too powerful? They have a quite fitting name, being that they are similar to the Lion.
Can tigers move 2 steps sideways on opponent's side of board? Or they can move 2 steps only forward? By the way, have someone tryed to play with tigers against 'All-in-one-piece' (chariot+knight+cannon)?
In response to the comments about Tigers inevitably moving into danger on their first move, note that a Tiger movew can tak two forms: moving one Tiger two steps, or moving two Tigers one step each. Thus the first Tiger move would normally be to move one each from the fourth to the firth rank. This would put them in a threatening rather than threatened position.
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