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Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, May 21, 2023 11:26 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Sat May 20 08:57 PM:

With Q=9 the true values (on 8x8) are B=3, B-pair = 6.5, Archbishop=8.25.

If Bishop is just 3, why the Queen is 9 if it's 8?! why Archbishop is 8.25 if it's 6 (according to B=3)?

I consider that there are chessmen with more permanent value (such as Rook or Silver) and with more floating value. (Each piece's value floats depening on board's situation, but some of their values don't exit certain natural number's area).

But a lot of them are worth two numbers and are closer to one in one position, and to other in another situation. There are some factors which are affecting: board's size, number of pieces on the board, abilities which piece has, and amount of squares which are available.

Number of pieces on the board can be sufficient (remember of Janggi Cannon & other hoppers).

Bishop is maneuverable ranger but it has one huge flaw - colorboundness, by this lone B=3. All things which dissolve it will increase bishop's value (slightly, but yes, methods are said in a comment above). In this system, value of Queen is considered as 9 because it's compound of Rook (5) with Bishop without its flaw, additionally giving the non-royal King's motion to Queen. It's synergy. (Archbishop is also strong but it's reachable by King and can't hold a straght line; Chancellor can hold a line, I consider that C≈8, but it's closer to 9 than Centaur, so less size of the board increases its price, all BN, RN and KN compounds).

About Knight. That morning I've come to my favourite pychess.org and played 3 games of Burmese Chess (Sittuyin), so I've understood that in first part of game (with crowded board) it's good to trade your Silver for opponent's Knight, because last has more mobility and forking ability. But in an endgame (on very non-crowded board), it's better to have Silver against Knight (with another weak pieces of course), because Knight + Ferz has less checkmating ability than Silver + Ferz; so Kinght's forking ability isn't useful if rooks are already traded. (So in variation of Thai Chess, called Makpong, where King can't move out of check but can capture checking piece, situation is more clear with advantage of Knight).

Anyway and anyhow, (in wide sense) chess is fun))))))))


Atlantic Graphics. Chess font that supports fairy pieces.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, May 21, 2023 11:29 AM UTC in reply to Max Koval from 10:12 AM:

Camel is made to better distinguish it from Knight. Nightrider has a little change so it can be declined.

P. S. (Вы знаете русский?)


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Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, May 21, 2023 12:44 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 11:57 AM:

Yeah, Queen is about 9, but even little more (especially in endgame), so:

If you became to put practical arguments, N+N+B≈Q, but B+B+N (if B-s are on different colors of cells) isn't, such as Bishops' pair is more than Knights' (but it's not 8 because board isn't fully free, and they can't be safe by standing near each other due to Queen's existence there). Yeah, B=N, but B=N≈3.5 (average price).

So about Archbishop, it's possible to have its value slightly more than 7 as average value.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, May 22, 2023 08:28 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:22 AM:

So we should keep in mind that piece values just reflect the average performance of a piece, and that the actual performance for some imbalances might have a far greater variation than for other imbalances.

So if it's that, why do you use symbol when I and Hirosi Kano use ≈ ?!

B+N+NQ and B+N+N=Q isn't same.

Why I count A7 (if accurately, 7.44) Archbishop has a less color-switching ability than Centaur or Chancellor.

One should realize, however, that Euwe's values just reflect his personal feelings.

It's right)))) so I also don't use (rude for me) computer analysis.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, May 22, 2023 01:18 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 12:36 PM:

BTW can you check Faceoff or Kinzoku (Neodobutsu)? Please. I have so much ideas (about 20!) and only few are realized.

About Archbishop I meant only pure endgame (K+A vs K), because Bishop is maneuverable.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, May 22, 2023 05:40 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 02:02 PM:

So stalemate possibility also matters. So for me, piece is more valuable if it’s easier and more possible to checkmate in pure late endgame.

So I really don’t understand, what have I done if you ignore my submissions?


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, May 22, 2023 07:45 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 06:09 PM:

So 7 is very weird number: I’ve claimed Hyperrook (RF), Archbishop (BN) and Magician as 7 in my own notation (which BTW has Manchu Superpiece and hasn’t Amazon), but now I watch and see that they all can cost 8 depending on situation; so I’m thinking about marking Nightrider, Squirrel and Unicorn as 7, but I don’t want to do it.

I will stop this discussion to not drown in it)


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Diceroller is Fire wrote on Tue, May 23, 2023 12:31 PM UTC:

Can I change my ID? or what can I do about it?


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Tue, May 30, 2023 09:56 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Fri May 26 04:37 PM:

OK


Radioactive Queen Chess. White has a little diff in setup, but great diff in the game. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Tue, May 30, 2023 10:43 AM UTC:

Radioactive Queen Chess is long time ago considered as ready. Sorry, it’ll be nice to get your answer when you will be free.


Faceoff Chess. Chess with big moving restrictions for kings. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Thu, Jun 1, 2023 08:24 AM UTC:

Please check at least one of my submissions in next 72 hours. Thx, Rechefiltr_is_火


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Jun 5, 2023 11:31 AM UTC in reply to Diceroller is Fire from Thu Jun 1 08:24 AM:

Please check at least one of my submissions in next 72 hours. Thx, Rechefiltr_is_火

{attempt 2}


Piececlopedia Guidelines. Missing description[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sat, Jun 10, 2023 07:37 PM UTC:

Can I add my Magician or Zip (or probably other pieces) from my Horizons (or Torch from Orthodia) to Piececlopedia?

For me it’s better to add Zip, but Magician HTML is fully ready.


Vanguard Chess. Game on 16x16 board, with 48 pieces per player. (16x16, Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sat, Jun 10, 2023 07:41 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 06:28 PM:

About Lancers from Orda Chess you can go to GitHub and download the SVG of Lancer (which was even refreshed in this year by my noting that its ribbon had thin border; so I say it because it’s in open source).


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2023 03:30 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Sat Jun 10 09:05 PM:

…except that I don't think there's any way to add it to the Musketeer Board Painter from where I sit.

What is MBP? btw I can open these SVGs in Inkscape (where they were drawn) and convert into PNGs if you use PNGs in your diagrams.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Jun 12, 2023 03:56 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 03:26 PM:

You can send me your diagram with free Lancers' cells and I fill it with sending to you.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Jun 12, 2023 05:33 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 04:40 PM:

I'm next!..

...also please say to editors that I wait them VERY long...


. Members-Only Fighting with light non-royal pieces, drops & dice which decides what piece types are in play.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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Stone Garden Variation GC[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Jun 12, 2023 07:57 PM UTC:

I've created this by simple editing and copypasting but error occured https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=Stone+Garden+Full+Contact&settings=stonegardenvarfc&submit=Edit


Weird Rook strength pieces[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Thu, Jun 15, 2023 08:33 AM UTC:

I also have some Rook-strength pieces: Longdebeest (Ö in my notation, CFX) and Dove (Ď in my notation, fFvDbsNbAvHfG). Both are majors; both are also weird (especially Dove).

{Also I think about new piece category, Mezor, which are minor in most variants, but become major in drop variants (such as my Warrior, Copper, Silver, Wildebeest, several Argentinian hoppers, etc.)}


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Diceroller is Fire wrote on Thu, Jun 15, 2023 08:44 AM UTC in reply to Florin Lupusoru from 07:45 AM:

Unpublished content is hidden only for non-members. We already can make suggestions or revisions (but not publish it because we aren’t editors).

I also have this issue :)


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2023 07:32 AM UTC:

One advice to you.

For me, Treasurer is imbalance strong, and if I was you, I’d fixed its range to 3-5 squares.

All other rules are good, your variant is new though it has already inspired me to create {something new also}.


Paradigm Chess30. (Updated!) Chess with Dragon Bishop and 30 positions.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Fri, Jun 16, 2023 07:43 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 06:29 AM:

(Off topic, but so):

As far as I know it’s old cburnett graphics’ version, I can show to you it’s new version (used on https://lichess.org for several years).

I also contributed to these graphics adding Khon in https://pychess.org .

It will strongly refresh the look of CVP and probably raise up the number of our visitors (and mainly it may be used in Game Courier).

Thoughts on ear.


Weird Rook strength pieces[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Diceroller is Fire wrote on Sun, Jun 18, 2023 01:58 PM UTC in reply to Aurelian Florea from Fri Jun 16 06:11 PM:

Please expand a bit on mezors! I don't understand what you mean!

 It's a category of chessmen who have mating position but cannot reach it.

Not on this category, but I also will note that Commoner also has a power near the Rook.


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